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BillVol |
Whatcha got, g? | #1 | ||
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Hopefully something good to shut my Kentucky friend up...
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gvt11 |
It was a claim that Haywood made in this story | #2 | ||
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Seattle Post Intelligencer story
A Mississippi native raised as a teen in Detroit, Haywood accepted a scholarship offer from Tennessee, supposedly making him the
Southeastern Conference's first black basketball player. When Kentucky's Adolph interceded, suggesting his program would decide when and where the league became integrated, Haywood fled to Trinidad
State Junior College near the Colorado-New Mexico border, where he averaged 28.2 points and 22.1 rebounds.
If either of them could have exercised influence to keep a key recruit off the other's team, I believe they would have.
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gvt11 wrote: FYI, I spoke with the writer of that article after that was published. He basically wrote whatever yarn Haywood told him without finding any supporting evidence/corroboration/documentation or doing any research on his own. The author also refused to have the article amended after I pointed out numerous examples mentioning Haywood not being academically eligible (including by Haywood himself in earlier years). Sadly, that's apparently the nature of 'journalism' today. Haywood has made various claims over the years, much of it contradictory and off-the-wall, with very little of it actually backed up with hard evidence. I think that in this particular case, Haywood's first biography (written in 1972) mentioned his time at UT and did acknowledge he was not academically eligible. He didn't mention anything about Rupp (this during a time when Rupp was alive and no doubt would have been happy to set the record straight). This is what Haywood said then:
from "Stand up for Something - The Spencer Haywood Story" by Bill Libby and Spencer Haywood (Grosset & Dunlap) 1972, pg 36-37
"I finally decided to go to Tennessee. That sounds crazy, I know, and [Will] Robinson was dead against it. He figured they just wanted to use me, and he was probably right. But I had met a chick in Knoxville when they brought me to the campus for a visit and I really dug this sister; and even though there weren't many blacks in school, there were a lot of them in town, and a lot of sisters I thought I could deal with in the black part of town, and I thought I'd have fun there. It's just a chancy thing, you know, why a guy makes up his mind that he likes this place or that place or wants to go here or there, and a sympathetic sister is as good a reason as any. Ray Mears, the coach, seemed like a nice man. And there was a lot of talk of me breaking the black barrier, blazing a trail in basketball for blacks to follow me in that school and all southern schools. I liked the idea of being a pioneer. So I enrolled. But when I took the entrance exam, I flunked it. I did my best, but I wasn't ready for it and I didn't make it. And the NCAA ruled I couldn't play ball there because of that. So I dropped out." In fact, what Haywood didn't mention is he took off in the middle of the night without telling anyone. Only after Rupp died (and therefore not in a position to respond) did Haywood start making claims about him. I don't think that's a coincidence. In addition, as time has passed more and more Haywood seems to have 'forgotten' that he wasn't eligible. I'm not a psychiatrist but I think it is instructive to note that when reading about Spencer Haywood and what he's claimed over the years 1.) he rarely takes personal responsibility for anything he's done and 2.) he does seem to want to make himself larger than life. For example I truly do believe that he did want to be a racial pioneer. He just didn't have it in him (ie the work ethic, the grades etc.) to actually be in a position to accomplish that. Maybe that goes to explaining some of the later (unsubstantiated) claims he's made ? Again, if you have actual information from that time period which supports this theory that Rupp somehow was able to influence Tennessee not to enroll Haywood, I'd like to hear it. Not only that it happened but HOW it could happen if Haywood was indeed eligible. (which there's no evidence to suggest he was.) Jon
Last Edited By: JPScott 02/28/09 20:20:30.
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| Why I hate Kentucky.... | 02/21/09 00:44:41 | PolemicVol |
| That was beautiful...may I add a few?.... | 02/21/09 01:24:33 | Bna Vol |
| Re: Why I hate Kentucky.... | 02/21/09 08:57:57 | gvt11 |
| Did not know that about Haywood | 02/21/09 11:28:34 | BillVol |
| Re: Why I hate Kentucky.... | 02/24/09 17:41:17 | JPScott |
| I'm boycotting SEC basketball until someone breaks the | 02/24/09 17:48:41 | Blacksheepvol |
| Welcome, Jon | 02/24/09 21:12:41 | BillVol |
| Whatcha got, g? | 02/28/09 01:17:57 | BillVol |
| It was a claim that Haywood made in this story | 02/28/09 11:49:00 | gvt11 |
| Re: Why I hate Kentucky.... | 02/28/09 19:46:23 | JPScott |
| I might ask you to show me the evidence... | 02/28/09 12:00:54 | wkuvol |
| The B in Joe B Hall ...... | 02/21/09 13:10:52 | Bna Vol |
| They say he subbed himself twice in that game.... | 02/21/09 14:22:23 | PolemicVol |
| Kensucky lost another today. | 02/28/09 22:16:11 | brothervoliver2 |